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unexpected reboot caused by Kaspersky

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  • E Egor.Pokrovsky

    Hello, we need some more tests of this problem. Please turn on traces, restart KTS and try next steps, if you have possibility:

    1)In KTS go to Settings -> Additional -> Additional protection and management tools -> turn off "protection with virtualization"

    and try to repeat bug. Describe result and save traces, if bug repeated.

    2)Open CMD from directory of KIS and complit command: avp.com start Scan_critical_areas; check, do crash happened after it. (no need to start safe browser in this case)

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    Helios_07
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    @egor-pokrovsky

    Hi egor,

    First attempts had no luck in reproducing the issue. Main problem, the stability of the Software highly increased over the last days, i have way less problems so its way harder to reproduce problems which where easy to reproduce in the beginning. But i had the unexpected reboot yesterday so i will keep trying to reproduce the issue. Until then...

    PC:
    Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
    Build 19042.985
    Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
    32,0 GB-RAM
    NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
    KIS 21.4.8.292
    KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
    Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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      @egor-pokrovsky

      Hi egor,

      First attempts had no luck in reproducing the issue. Main problem, the stability of the Software highly increased over the last days, i have way less problems so its way harder to reproduce problems which where easy to reproduce in the beginning. But i had the unexpected reboot yesterday so i will keep trying to reproduce the issue. Until then...

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      Egor.Pokrovsky
      Kaspersky Lab
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      @helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. 

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      • E Egor.Pokrovsky

        @helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. 

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        Helios_07
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        @egor-pokrovsky

        You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.

        I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.

        After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.

        Also Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?

        And do you need more traces?

        PC:
        Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
        Build 19042.985
        Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
        32,0 GB-RAM
        NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
        KIS 21.4.8.292
        KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
        Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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        • H Helios_07

          @egor-pokrovsky

          You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.

          I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.

          After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.

          Also Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?

          And do you need more traces?

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          Egor.Pokrovsky
          Kaspersky Lab
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          @helios_07 Thanks for tests! No need for traces for now, i pass this information to developers.

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          • H Helios_07

            Real PC:

            Windows 10 x64 18362.449

            KIS 21.0.29.1036 app+drv ver. on

            Standard Browser: Firefox

            Reproduction steps:

            1. $1

            2. $1

            3. $1

            4. $1

            Happens occasionally this way, meaning when i try to open the safe money browser this way.

            Also happened several other times where i cant/couldnt pinpoint the trigger.

            I only can pinpoint the cause to Kaspersky drivers but i dont know which ones.

            The number of unexpected reboots onces increased to every ca10 min after i manually turned on driver verifier for all the Kaspersky drivers.

            Actual result:

            PC/Windows 10 crashed and rebooted

            Expected Result:

            no PC crash

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            Dmitriy.Pisarets
            Kaspersky Lab
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            @helios_07, hello! 

            can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

            1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

            2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

            problem should be solved

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            • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

              @helios_07, hello! 

              can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

              1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

              2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

              problem should be solved

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              Helios_07
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              @dmitriy-pisarets

              A quick test showed no unexpected reboot within the usual timeframe, so i think youre correct and the problem is solved.

              But i dont have this option in registry so i used the gui.

              I will continue testing.

              EDIT: just had another unexptected reboot so not fixed as far as i can tell.

              I will test with the new beta version see how it is going there.

              PC:
              Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
              Build 19042.985
              Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
              32,0 GB-RAM
              NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
              KIS 21.4.8.292
              KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
              Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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              • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

                @helios_07, hello! 

                can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

                1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

                2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

                problem should be solved

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                Helios_07
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                KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on

                klhk.sys 20.3.52.0

                @dmitriy-pisarets

                Turned on traces,

                used the computer for about 20 min

                started safe browser (Firefox)

                10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot

                As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.

                Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm 

                PC:
                Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                Build 19042.985
                Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                32,0 GB-RAM
                NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                KIS 21.4.8.292
                KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                  KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on

                  klhk.sys 20.3.52.0

                  @dmitriy-pisarets

                  Turned on traces,

                  used the computer for about 20 min

                  started safe browser (Firefox)

                  10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot

                  As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.

                  Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm 

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                  Dmitriy.Pisarets
                  Kaspersky Lab
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                  @helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)

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                  • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

                    @helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)

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                    Helios_07
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                    @dmitriy-pisarets

                    Hi dmitriy,

                    The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. 

                    From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?

                    PC:
                    Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                    Build 19042.985
                    Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                    32,0 GB-RAM
                    NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                    KIS 21.4.8.292
                    KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                    Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                    • H Helios_07

                      @dmitriy-pisarets

                      Hi dmitriy,

                      The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. 

                      From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?

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                      Dmitriy.Pisarets
                      Kaspersky Lab
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                      @helios_07 thank you! i'll provide your answer to developers, they will do fix and bug will be closed

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