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  • huang1111H Offline
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    huang1111
    [2021] Diamond BT
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    Hello, this software is an anti-virus software from China 2345.com company, but this software bundles other applications, URL navigation, and also pushes advertisements to users, so it may be used by some anti-virus software as a virus. Specific compatibility tests, I will reply to you next week.

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    • harlan4096H harlan4096

      Hum this link is a compressed small file of 85Kb with file 2345Base.sys inside , so how can We test it?

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      Wesly.Zhang
      Moderators
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      @harlan4096 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

      Hum this link is a compressed small file of 85Kb with file 2345Base.sys inside , so how can We test it?

      Hi, Harlan4096

      I think this driver is related to this software could be download from here: http://dl.2345.cc/2345pcsafe/2345pcsafe_v5.4.1.11945.exe. This software integrates avira scanning engine and have application control funciton.

      Regards.

      Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
      If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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      • Wesly.ZhangW Offline
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        Hello,

        2345 Safe Center is not a independently installed program. It is inherited in 2345 safe guard program installation file. 2345 compared to Qihoo 360,——This brand is not well known in China , it can be said that it is very small. And this brand has been used for malicious promotion and bundled installation, which can be said to be notorious. I don't like this brand indeed.

        The file you provided only has been detected by Microsoft as "PUA:Win32/2345Cn". I installed 2345 safe guard with KIS 2020. Now there is no problem has been found, Only a few popup window related to it push to display in the right corner. If I found somethings go wrong, I will reply here.

        Regards.

        Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
        If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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          I agree with Wesly.Zhang

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          • harlan4096H Offline
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            harlan4096
            βTester
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            #8

            The link to download it is very slow here, not more than 12kbytes/seg... but stable downloading at 6 Kb/seg

            Meanwhile, is it a real-time tool? then should be incompatible with Kaspersky or tagged as it?

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            • harlan4096H harlan4096

              The link to download it is very slow here, not more than 12kbytes/seg... but stable downloading at 6 Kb/seg

              Meanwhile, is it a real-time tool? then should be incompatible with Kaspersky or tagged as it?

              Wesly.ZhangW Offline
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              Wesly.Zhang
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              @harlan4096 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

              The link to download it is very slow here, not more than 12kbytes/seg... but stable downloading at 6 Kb/seg

              Meanwhile, is it a real-time tool? then should be incompatible with Kaspersky or tagged as it?

              Hello,

              Let me share to you: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/NYwxIlz5ltc4xLT

              This program doesn't have english or other languages GUI. I don't know this will lead to some problem or not when you install and operate it.

               QA: Is it a real-time tool?

              Yes. It is. It could do some other things such as fix and install OS patch, System and registry junk file cleanup, etc.

              QA:should be incompatible with Kaspersky or tagged as it?

              My idea is that it is better to be compatible, this is a situation that everyone will happy. If there is a problem to see if it can be resolved through communication, it is really impossible from technology side and there is no way. Let it go~

              Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
              If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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              • harlan4096H Offline
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                harlan4096
                βTester
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                Thanks! 我的中文不是很好

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                • harlan4096H harlan4096

                  Thanks! 我的中文不是很好

                  huang1111H Offline
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                  huang1111
                  [2021] Diamond BT
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @harlan4096 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                  Thanks! 我的中文不是很好

                  If you cannot recognize the text in the GUI of this application, I do not recommend you to install this application. When installing this application, the installation package will automatically replace the browser's startup page with the URL navigation produced by the company 2345.com. After installation, the application will also push advertisements. When uninstalling the application, it will install a lot of other software by default, so this security software does not occupy a large market in China.

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                    harlan4096
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                    Ok, thanks... it seems more a PUP/PUA/Adware tool then...

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                    • Wesly.ZhangW Offline
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                      #13

                      There are two news published by huorong which is famous IT & Anti-virus company in china :

                      http://www.huorong.cn/info/151212805083.html

                      https://www.huorong.cn/info/1554067875200.html

                      These two news & malicous software analysis articles are very instersting.

                      Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
                      If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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                      • harlan4096H Offline
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                        harlan4096
                        βTester
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        Thanks!

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                        • huang1111H Offline
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                          huang1111
                          [2021] Diamond BT
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                          #15

                          Hello, according to the tests of these days, Kaspersky does not seem to have any incompatibility issues with the 2345 Security Center application. They have not shown any obvious conflicts on one computer. However, at the same time, it is also regrettable that Kaspersky did not identify and block the pop-up advertisement module of the application.

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                          • huang1111H huang1111

                            Hello, according to the tests of these days, Kaspersky does not seem to have any incompatibility issues with the 2345 Security Center application. They have not shown any obvious conflicts on one computer. However, at the same time, it is also regrettable that Kaspersky did not identify and block the pop-up advertisement module of the application.

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                            @huang1111 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                            Hello, according to the tests of these days, Kaspersky does not seem to have any incompatibility issues with the 2345 Security Center application. They have not shown any obvious conflicts on one computer. However, at the same time, it is also regrettable that Kaspersky did not identify and block the pop-up advertisement module of the application.

                            Hello, huang1111

                            The same to me here. Do you try to run a malware in a controlled enviroment such as vmware to see whether KL product and 2345 application also report "found a malware" and process it without any problem at the same time or not. On my side, it seem that 2345 process malware speed is higher than KL product. It is not a problem, I think. But I take care their PDM model behavior: If I allow some malicous actions in 2345 proactive defense model ( 应用入口防护/Application Defense, 系统底层防护/System protection ), KL product could be blocked or detect it and countinue to handle it, which is the best important things, I think. Do you also test this way?

                            Regards.

                            Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
                            If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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                            • Wesly.ZhangW Wesly.Zhang

                              @huang1111 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                              Hello, according to the tests of these days, Kaspersky does not seem to have any incompatibility issues with the 2345 Security Center application. They have not shown any obvious conflicts on one computer. However, at the same time, it is also regrettable that Kaspersky did not identify and block the pop-up advertisement module of the application.

                              Hello, huang1111

                              The same to me here. Do you try to run a malware in a controlled enviroment such as vmware to see whether KL product and 2345 application also report "found a malware" and process it without any problem at the same time or not. On my side, it seem that 2345 process malware speed is higher than KL product. It is not a problem, I think. But I take care their PDM model behavior: If I allow some malicous actions in 2345 proactive defense model ( 应用入口防护/Application Defense, 系统底层防护/System protection ), KL product could be blocked or detect it and countinue to handle it, which is the best important things, I think. Do you also test this way?

                              Regards.

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                              huang1111
                              [2021] Diamond BT
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @wesly-zhang said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                              @huang1111 said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                              Hello, according to the tests of these days, Kaspersky does not seem to have any incompatibility issues with the 2345 Security Center application. They have not shown any obvious conflicts on one computer. However, at the same time, it is also regrettable that Kaspersky did not identify and block the pop-up advertisement module of the application.

                              Hello, huang1111

                              The same to me here. Do you try to run a malware in a controlled enviroment such as vmware to see whether KL product and 2345 application also report "found a malware" and process it without any problem at the same time or not. On my side, it seem that 2345 process malware speed is higher than KL product. It is not a problem, I think. But I take care their PDM model behavior: If I allow some malicous actions in 2345 proactive defense model ( 应用入口防护/Application Defense, 系统底层防护/System protection ), KL product could be blocked or detect it and countinue to handle it, which is the best important things, I think. Do you also test this way?

                              Regards.

                              Hello, this is no longer in the scope of our compatibility testing. There are two anti-virus software installed on one computer. Such a system environment is not normal, so we do not need to pay special attention to this very special problem. In addition, I cannot find virus samples to test this situation, because in most cases Kaspersky can scan more viruses than 2345 Security Center, which makes this type of testing very difficult.

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                                Dmitriy.Pisarets
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                                thank you for your help!

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                                  Dmitriy.Pisarets
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                                  Can also say, do other antivirus consider 2345 as malware or adware ?

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                                    Can also say, do other antivirus consider 2345 as malware or adware ?

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                                    @dmitriy-pisarets said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                                    Can also say, do other antivirus consider 2345 as malware or adware ?

                                    I think Adware is more relevant. For this program, it has not reached the level of malicious programs.

                                    You can ask your chinese colleagues about the evaluation of 2345 company.

                                    Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
                                    If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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                                    • Wesly.ZhangW Wesly.Zhang

                                      @dmitriy-pisarets said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                                      Can also say, do other antivirus consider 2345 as malware or adware ?

                                      I think Adware is more relevant. For this program, it has not reached the level of malicious programs.

                                      You can ask your chinese colleagues about the evaluation of 2345 company.

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                                      Dmitriy.Pisarets
                                      Kaspersky Lab
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                                      @wesly-zhang, can you please check it with other antiviruses ? avast, nod, panda etc...

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                                        @wesly-zhang, can you please check it with other antiviruses ? avast, nod, panda etc...

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                                        @dmitriy-pisarets said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                                        @wesly-zhang, can you please check it with other antiviruses ? avast, nod, panda etc...

                                        Hi,

                                        Sure. Sorry for my delay. Some other its drivers are also been detected by microsoft.

                                        2345Base.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 3d9e93488d7ae760de63a13c4eba132b02236261e5512d7ee4a1ee7e7c761569

                                        2345ExProtect.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 66735892e6742efa89eb93363f06e220bf3c87626607f49b1908fba4ae6ecc22

                                        2345Iron.sy - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 8d61e864702700ffa26e0621757fbee1f97359571a7710652f3dee9a3b992574

                                        2345Misc.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 c662e56c3dc2e9751bf0cff4c1bca61bd1c857de4317ef6da56b4c0b1d668737

                                        2345NetMgr.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 633e31ec8cd87c9bdbc563b9d9676c4b73eeffd9daa69fe84a1c5f2fce14d1fb

                                        2345Prot.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 987df613a7639cb64c823826b74832c5931f6ff02a7e1ff418040aa29389a42c

                                        Now, Only Microsoft Defender detect its driver files as a adware. This is the result.

                                        But its main executable file: 2345SafeTray.exe | SHA-256 92a26f8364f1b9ce1501941ce8b435cece7e40d6ce8131b1bf5a54a8e4a422e1 has been 8 AV solutions detected as adware.

                                        Cylance Unsafe

                                        Cyren W32/Trojan.LVBB-6338

                                        ESET-NOD32 A Variant Of Win32/2345.H Potentially Unwanted

                                        Fortinet Riskware/2345

                                        K7AntiVirus Adware ( 0055ce2c1 )

                                        K7GW Adware ( 0055ce2c1 )

                                        Microsoft PUA:Win32/2345Cn

                                        Sophos AV Generic PUA KH (PUA)

                                        I use ESENT NOD32 Online scanner ( enable detect potential unwanted and unsafe applications ) to check all 2345 product folder. Here is the result:

                                        Scan log: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/GKOLefB4xB9hhD7

                                        I also use panda cloud cleaner and avast free antivirus. There is no any PUA detection, Maybe they don't know 2345 product.

                                        Go! The world ! 💪 Our CD8/CD4 T lymphocytes are on their way to destroy the new tubular virus.😠
                                        If I don't reply your post here, Please send a PM in KL Community forum or post a E-Mail ( wesly.zhang@qq.com ) to notice me.

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                                        • Wesly.ZhangW Wesly.Zhang

                                          @dmitriy-pisarets said in Need some help with 2345SafeCenter:

                                          @wesly-zhang, can you please check it with other antiviruses ? avast, nod, panda etc...

                                          Hi,

                                          Sure. Sorry for my delay. Some other its drivers are also been detected by microsoft.

                                          2345Base.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 3d9e93488d7ae760de63a13c4eba132b02236261e5512d7ee4a1ee7e7c761569

                                          2345ExProtect.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 66735892e6742efa89eb93363f06e220bf3c87626607f49b1908fba4ae6ecc22

                                          2345Iron.sy - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 8d61e864702700ffa26e0621757fbee1f97359571a7710652f3dee9a3b992574

                                          2345Misc.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 c662e56c3dc2e9751bf0cff4c1bca61bd1c857de4317ef6da56b4c0b1d668737

                                          2345NetMgr.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 633e31ec8cd87c9bdbc563b9d9676c4b73eeffd9daa69fe84a1c5f2fce14d1fb

                                          2345Prot.sys - Microsoft - PUA:Win32/2345Cn | SHA-256 987df613a7639cb64c823826b74832c5931f6ff02a7e1ff418040aa29389a42c

                                          Now, Only Microsoft Defender detect its driver files as a adware. This is the result.

                                          But its main executable file: 2345SafeTray.exe | SHA-256 92a26f8364f1b9ce1501941ce8b435cece7e40d6ce8131b1bf5a54a8e4a422e1 has been 8 AV solutions detected as adware.

                                          Cylance Unsafe

                                          Cyren W32/Trojan.LVBB-6338

                                          ESET-NOD32 A Variant Of Win32/2345.H Potentially Unwanted

                                          Fortinet Riskware/2345

                                          K7AntiVirus Adware ( 0055ce2c1 )

                                          K7GW Adware ( 0055ce2c1 )

                                          Microsoft PUA:Win32/2345Cn

                                          Sophos AV Generic PUA KH (PUA)

                                          I use ESENT NOD32 Online scanner ( enable detect potential unwanted and unsafe applications ) to check all 2345 product folder. Here is the result:

                                          Scan log: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/GKOLefB4xB9hhD7

                                          I also use panda cloud cleaner and avast free antivirus. There is no any PUA detection, Maybe they don't know 2345 product.

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                                          Dmitriy.Pisarets
                                          Kaspersky Lab
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                                          @wesly-zhang, Thank you!

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