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unexpected reboot caused by Kaspersky

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  • H Helios_07

    @egor-pokrovsky

    Hi egor,

    First attempts had no luck in reproducing the issue. Main problem, the stability of the Software highly increased over the last days, i have way less problems so its way harder to reproduce problems which where easy to reproduce in the beginning. But i had the unexpected reboot yesterday so i will keep trying to reproduce the issue. Until then...

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    Egor.Pokrovsky
    Kaspersky Lab
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    @helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. 

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      @helios_07 Thanks! Tell us if problem will not repeat with turned off "protection with virtualization", after some tests. It will be useful information. 

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      Helios_07
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      @egor-pokrovsky

      You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.

      I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.

      After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.

      Also Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?

      And do you need more traces?

      PC:
      Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
      Build 19042.985
      Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
      32,0 GB-RAM
      NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
      KIS 21.4.8.292
      KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
      Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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      • H Helios_07

        @egor-pokrovsky

        You seem to be correct, hardware virtualization seems to be the cause.

        I played around for a while with it turned off and the safe browser worked fine.

        After i turned it back on and played with the safe browser i had a reboot within minutes.

        Also Scan_critical_areas is an unknown command as far as i can tell, does it matter which scan?

        And do you need more traces?

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        Egor.Pokrovsky
        Kaspersky Lab
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        @helios_07 Thanks for tests! No need for traces for now, i pass this information to developers.

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        • H Helios_07

          Real PC:

          Windows 10 x64 18362.449

          KIS 21.0.29.1036 app+drv ver. on

          Standard Browser: Firefox

          Reproduction steps:

          1. $1

          2. $1

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          Happens occasionally this way, meaning when i try to open the safe money browser this way.

          Also happened several other times where i cant/couldnt pinpoint the trigger.

          I only can pinpoint the cause to Kaspersky drivers but i dont know which ones.

          The number of unexpected reboots onces increased to every ca10 min after i manually turned on driver verifier for all the Kaspersky drivers.

          Actual result:

          PC/Windows 10 crashed and rebooted

          Expected Result:

          no PC crash

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          Dmitriy.Pisarets
          Kaspersky Lab
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          @helios_07, hello! 

          can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

          1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

          2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

          problem should be solved

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          • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

            @helios_07, hello! 

            can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

            1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

            2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

            problem should be solved

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            Helios_07
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            @dmitriy-pisarets

            A quick test showed no unexpected reboot within the usual timeframe, so i think youre correct and the problem is solved.

            But i dont have this option in registry so i used the gui.

            I will continue testing.

            EDIT: just had another unexptected reboot so not fixed as far as i can tell.

            I will test with the new beta version see how it is going there.

            PC:
            Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
            Build 19042.985
            Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
            32,0 GB-RAM
            NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
            KIS 21.4.8.292
            KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
            Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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            • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

              @helios_07, hello! 

              can you please reproduce problem with some special steps? 

              1. replace your klhk.sys file with this one Link

              2. in registry in Local Machine\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\klhk\Parameters set UseHvm=1 

              problem should be solved

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              Helios_07
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              KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on

              klhk.sys 20.3.52.0

              @dmitriy-pisarets

              Turned on traces,

              used the computer for about 20 min

              started safe browser (Firefox)

              10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot

              As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.

              Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm 

              PC:
              Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
              Build 19042.985
              Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
              32,0 GB-RAM
              NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
              KIS 21.4.8.292
              KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
              Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                KTS 21.0.33.1168 app+drv ver. on

                klhk.sys 20.3.52.0

                @dmitriy-pisarets

                Turned on traces,

                used the computer for about 20 min

                started safe browser (Firefox)

                10 sec later i had an unexpected reboot

                As far as i can tell the new driver improves the stability a little but still has reproducable unexpected reboots.

                Traces: https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/CxbLMuWKybMeFvm 

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                Dmitriy.Pisarets
                Kaspersky Lab
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                @helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)

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                • D Dmitriy.Pisarets

                  @helios_07 hello! can you, please retry it with new version ? (https://cloud.qainfo.ru/s/xY9VEMp03MBjjSW)

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                  Helios_07
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                  @dmitriy-pisarets

                  Hi dmitriy,

                  The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. 

                  From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?

                  PC:
                  Windows 10 64-bit Version 20H2
                  Build 19042.985
                  Intel Core i10-10900K @ 3,7GHZ
                  32,0 GB-RAM
                  NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 TI 11GB
                  KIS 21.4.8.292
                  KPM 9.0.2.15298(o)
                  Forum Signature from 25.May.2021

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                  • H Helios_07

                    @dmitriy-pisarets

                    Hi dmitriy,

                    The initial test looks very good, no unexpected reboot while using the safe browser(Firefox) for around 2h with hardware virtualisation enabled, which far exceeds the usual timeframes. 

                    From my point you can put the bug on probably fixed, i will continue testing to be sure and report back around next week, if thats ok with you guys at Kaspersky!?

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                    Dmitriy.Pisarets
                    Kaspersky Lab
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                    @helios_07 thank you! i'll provide your answer to developers, they will do fix and bug will be closed

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