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    No signatures updates  in beta server for 3 days 🤔

    S1 (Desktop MELPOMENIA): KES14.1 + W11 Pro 25H2 * S2 (Desktop TERMINUS): Kaspersky Premium 21.27 beta + W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC Pro 21H2 * S3 (VM): KES Cloud 14.1 + W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2

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      And even worse, .NET 5 is not supported anymore although Kaspersky 21.5/21.6/21.7 is still based on it. I don't understand that at all. Please switch to .NET 6 as soon as possible. It doesn't make sense testing software which is based on outdated components.

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        And even worse, .NET 5 is not supported anymore although Kaspersky 21.5/21.6/21.7 is still based on it. I don't understand that at all. Please switch to .NET 6 as soon as possible. It doesn't make sense testing software which is based on outdated components.

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        @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

        And even worse, .NET 5 is not supported anymore although Kaspersky 21.5/21.6/21.7 is still based on it. I don't understand that at all. Please switch to .NET 6 as soon as possible. It doesn't make sense testing software which is based on outdated components.

        Install .NET Runtime 5.0.17. This version contains security fixes

        Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
        ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
        ОЗУ: 16 Гб
        Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
        Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
        ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
        Тестирование: реальная машина

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          @dimakor83

          Ya, but from last month. .NET 5 has reached its support cycle last month. Watch this: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/5.0

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            @dimakor83

            Ya, but from last month. .NET 5 has reached its support cycle last month. Watch this: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/5.0

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            @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

            @dimakor83

            Ya, but from last month. .NET 5 has reached its support cycle last month. Watch this: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/download/dotnet/5.0

            Yes, it is, but in this case there is no other way out.

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            ОЗУ: 16 Гб
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            Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
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              Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.

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              • HeliosH Helios

                Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.

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                @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.

                But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.

                Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                Тестирование: реальная машина

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                • dimakor83D dimakor83

                  @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                  Yep, I know. And therefore I hope KL will switch to .NET 6 as soon as anyhow possible.

                  But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.

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                  @dimakor83 said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                  But that will be in the next version (22.x), not before. I don't think developers will rewrite (edit) the application's GUI code.

                  Well, then let's hope that will happen soon. For the time being, I'm using KL 21.3 'cause there is no other adequate option available.

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                    hi

                    windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

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                      hi

                      windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

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                      @cortoye said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                      hi

                      windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

                      Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.

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                      • C cortoye

                        hi

                        windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

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                        @cortoye said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                        hi

                        windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

                        Install Windows desktop-runtime-5.0.17-win-x86. This version is the latest version of .NET Desktop Runtime 5.0 which contains security fixes.

                        Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                        ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                        ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                        Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                        Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                        ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                        Тестирование: реальная машина

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                        • HeliosH Helios

                          @cortoye said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                          hi

                          windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 has out of date ( not supported by microsoft ) but kaspersky 21.6.7.351 need windowsdesktop-runtime-5.0.16-win-x86 for install .?!

                          Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.

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                          @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                          Well, not only 21.6, but also 21.5 and 21.7 (see posts above). .NET 5.0.17 was the last supported version by Microsoft and got ceased last month. From now on, only .NET 6, which is a LTS version, is supported (and .NET 7 preview of course) by Microsoft. You can use 21.3 which is based on .NET 4.8 that is also a LTS version... as I do. There are no other options right now.

                          Do not mislead users.

                          The .NET Desktop Runtime is a runtime that allows you to create a Metro-style user interface. .NET Desktop Runtime 5.0.10 or later (latest NET Desktop Runtime 5.0, version 5.0.17) is required to run and use the Kaspersky 21.4–21.7 GUI.

                          The** Microsoft .NET Framework** is a runtime that allows you to create applications whose modules are written in different programming languages. Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0 or higher is required to run and use Kaspersky Lab products.

                          Kaspersky Lab applications 21.3 and earlier use only the Microsoft .NET Framework to launch and operate. Kaspersky Lab applications 21.4-21.7 use the Microsoft .NET Framework and .NET Desktop Runtime to launch and operate.

                          Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                          ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                          ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                          Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                          Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                          ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                          Тестирование: реальная машина

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                            @dimakor83

                            I do know that. For the sake of simplicity, I always call all of them .NET and it has absolutely nothing to do regarding the security of Kaspersky 21.4 and higher. .NET 5 is a core component for Kaspersky and mustn't be based on an outdated software package. It's a waste of time and resources and it makes absolutely no sense to me doing that. Kaspersky is a globally well-known and prestigious security solution and in my opinion it's anyway a must developing security software based on supported software components.

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                              Hi folks

                              As you probably know Microsoft has banned downloading certain contents from their websites from Russia.

                              https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955

                              How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?

                              Thx

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                              • HeliosH Helios

                                Hi folks

                                As you probably know Microsoft has banned downloading certain contents from their websites from Russia.

                                https://www.twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1538570733672189955

                                How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?

                                Thx

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                                @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                                How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?

                                Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, 

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                                  @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                                  How is this affecting the development and quality of Kaspersky products? Does it?

                                  Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, 

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                                  @dmitriy-pisarets said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                                  Hello! we know about it, but beta forum is not place to discuss such questions. May be in press releases such info can be found, 

                                  Ya, I do know. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

                                  PS: Didn't know where to place it otherwise.

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                                    Hi my friends

                                    I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.

                                    It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?

                                    "Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."

                                    **

                                    Here is the whole article:**

                                    Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents

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                                    • HeliosH Helios

                                      Hi my friends

                                      I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.

                                      It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?

                                      "Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."

                                      **

                                      Here is the whole article:**

                                      Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents

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                                      @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                                      Hi my friends

                                      I've been just tripped over the following article written by Martin Brinkmann from ghacks.net.

                                      It's uttermost scary to me to read what Adobe Reader is able to do and being doing with many security solutions including Kaspersky. How is it possible to evade them? It's described to a certain extent, but even more important and essential, can it be fixed in general?

                                      "Security tools inject DLLs, Dynamic Link Libraries, into applications that are launched on the system, which is necessary to gain access. The blocking prevents the injection from taking place."

                                      **

                                      Here is the whole article:**

                                      Report: Adobe Reader is blocking antivirus tools from scanning loaded PDF documents

                                      Uninstall Adobe Acrobat Reader. Install the STDU Viewer. First of all, STDU Viewer is, of course, PDF and multi-page TIFF. As well as DjVu, JBIG2, WWF and XPS. You can also use the program to view BMP, PCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, DCX, WMF, EMF, PSD graphic files.The program will help e-book lovers to read books in FB2 (including FB2.ZIP), TXT, TCR, PalmDoc(PDB), MOBI, AZW, EPub formats. For fans of comics, support for CBR and CBZ formats has been added.The program is lightweight, not demanding on computer resources.

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                                      ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                                      ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                                      Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                                      Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                                      ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
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                                        @dimakor83

                                        Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.

                                        In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.

                                        Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?

                                        I'm not an expert in this field.

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                                          @dimakor83

                                          Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.

                                          In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.

                                          Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?

                                          I'm not an expert in this field.

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                                          @helios said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.7.5.198:

                                          @dimakor83

                                          Thanks for your support. I uninstalled Adobe Acrobat Reader already a while ago and using Firefox to view PDFs.

                                          In our company, Acrobat Reader is installed on every computer.

                                          Do you think there is a way that KL can circumvent or at least mitigate behaviors of such programs in general, so that any app that might do the same as the Acrobat Reader is protected of this deceptive practice?

                                          I'm not an expert in this field.

                                          If there is no other way, keep Acrobat Reader up to date.

                                          Системная плата: MSI Z490-A Pro
                                          ЦП: HexaCore Intel Core i5-10400F, 4100 MHz
                                          ОЗУ: 16 Гб
                                          Видеокарта: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
                                          Драйверы: официальные, от производителей
                                          ОС: Windows 10 Pro х64; цифровая лицензия
                                          Тестирование: реальная машина

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