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    nexon
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    Also same installed over previous without problem. MR16 have visual changes animated logo + graphical darker green :)

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      still crashes during start......even if I reinstall the application

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        Crylune
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        So, I'm new to beta testing Kaspersky - are the animated visual changes around the shield in exclusive to Beta builds or is it a new addition coming in 21.16? Also, I noticed that some of the real time components now use machine learning, which was only previously in the manual scans. Will that also be in 21.16? If so, this product's about to get a whole lot stronger and I'm all for it.

        "Raptor" | 14900K | 4090 | Windows 11 Enterprise 23H2 - Hardened - UEFI locked LSASS protection - Maximum UAC etc. | Kaspersky Premium 21.16 - Default Deny HIPS - Deep Heuristics | Kaspersky Firewall - Default Deny | NextDNS Pro | Standard User Account

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        • CryluneC Crylune

          So, I'm new to beta testing Kaspersky - are the animated visual changes around the shield in exclusive to Beta builds or is it a new addition coming in 21.16? Also, I noticed that some of the real time components now use machine learning, which was only previously in the manual scans. Will that also be in 21.16? If so, this product's about to get a whole lot stronger and I'm all for it.

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          Dmitriy.Pisarets
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          @crylune, welcome! everything you see in this build will be in release one) 

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            @crylune, welcome! everything you see in this build will be in release one) 

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            @dmitriy-pisarets Then I'm beyond excited to that, real-time machine learning for home products is going to be huge. I really wish the main application window would have rounded corners though - then it'd look perfect.

            "Raptor" | 14900K | 4090 | Windows 11 Enterprise 23H2 - Hardened - UEFI locked LSASS protection - Maximum UAC etc. | Kaspersky Premium 21.16 - Default Deny HIPS - Deep Heuristics | Kaspersky Firewall - Default Deny | NextDNS Pro | Standard User Account

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            • CryluneC Crylune

              @dmitriy-pisarets Then I'm beyond excited to that, real-time machine learning for home products is going to be huge. I really wish the main application window would have rounded corners though - then it'd look perfect.

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              @crylune

              I'm not sure that ML in File-AV is new, it's true that the word "ML" is new there, but in previous K. versions that setting appears as “Signature Analysis”, and in new K21.16 online help still the data is the same as in 21.15:

              https://support.kaspersky.com/help/Kaspersky/Win21.16/en-US/85606.htm

              No changes in the info about that, the only change is that now in 21.16 appears also "Machine Learning" 🤔 and the "What's new" link for 21.16, does not mention that "supposed new feature":

              https://support.kaspersky.com/help/Kaspersky/Win21.16/en-US/119653.htm

              So I tend to think that is was already being using in previous K. versions...

              Maybe @Dmitriy.Pisarets can explain this...

              S1 (Desktop MELPOMENIA): KES14.1 + W11 Pro 25H2 * S2 (Desktop TERMINUS): Kaspersky Premium 21.27 beta + W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC Pro 21H2 * S3 (VM): KES Cloud 14.1 + W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2

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              • harlan4096H harlan4096

                @crylune

                I'm not sure that ML in File-AV is new, it's true that the word "ML" is new there, but in previous K. versions that setting appears as “Signature Analysis”, and in new K21.16 online help still the data is the same as in 21.15:

                https://support.kaspersky.com/help/Kaspersky/Win21.16/en-US/85606.htm

                No changes in the info about that, the only change is that now in 21.16 appears also "Machine Learning" 🤔 and the "What's new" link for 21.16, does not mention that "supposed new feature":

                https://support.kaspersky.com/help/Kaspersky/Win21.16/en-US/119653.htm

                So I tend to think that is was already being using in previous K. versions...

                Maybe @Dmitriy.Pisarets can explain this...

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                @harlan4096 I contacted support about machine learning in the real-time components specifically and they told me it's exclusive to Endpoint products. Sure enough, my Kaspersky Premium only has signature analysis, but when I tried KES it had "Machine learning and signature analysis" just like it says in 21.16.

                I wasn't around to beta test 21.15 and don't know if that also had "Machine learning and signature analysis" or just signature analysis.

                Maybe the knowledge base entry is not updated yet and machine learning is indeed coming to Home products with 21.16. Surely, that "What's new" page isn't including the current beta 21.16 and will be updated once it's released.

                One can hope, and I hope it is included, because machine learning was the most prevalent detection technology when I tested malware samples on KES, 70% of all detections were due to machine learning. Sometimes, Endpoint picked up malware on access with machine learning that my home Kaspersky failed to detect only until execution.

                "Raptor" | 14900K | 4090 | Windows 11 Enterprise 23H2 - Hardened - UEFI locked LSASS protection - Maximum UAC etc. | Kaspersky Premium 21.16 - Default Deny HIPS - Deep Heuristics | Kaspersky Firewall - Default Deny | NextDNS Pro | Standard User Account

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                  Why the app crashes during start on my computer?I've tried every computer I have----------even virtual machines,but they always crashes when opening.

                  In addition,can you guys visit 123pan.com?Though I can upload the traces there.

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                    No crashes here, very stable...

                    S1 (Desktop MELPOMENIA): KES14.1 + W11 Pro 25H2 * S2 (Desktop TERMINUS): Kaspersky Premium 21.27 beta + W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC Pro 21H2 * S3 (VM): KES Cloud 14.1 + W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2

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                      Why the app crashes during start on my computer?I've tried every computer I have----------even virtual machines,but they always crashes when opening.

                      In addition,can you guys visit 123pan.com?Though I can upload the traces there.

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                      @pal365 said in Kaspersky\VPN\KSOS 21.16.1.248:

                      In addition,can you guys visit 123pan.com?Though I can upload the traces there.

                      Hello! seems to be accessible. Please wait for new build, it should be available in several hours. It new build will crash, please upload traces and send to forum as a bug report. 

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